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Since the boys were born even getting on a plane gives me the spooks. <br /><br />Maybe next year. Maybe not. <br /><br />Glad you guys all come of the mtn safe each week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-74086470589753998652010-01-29T09:22:08.940-07:002010-01-29T09:22:08.940-07:00Wow. Anonymity buys all sorts of guts. I will sa...Wow. Anonymity buys all sorts of guts. I will say this, however... Karma is a <i>you-know-what</i>. (I've been to India now so naturally I know all sorts of stuff about Karma). <br /><br />When these <i>Schadenfreuders</i> die on their couches from many years of inactivity, someone will be there to post slander on their KSL obituary page: "I don't feel sorry for Sally one bit. All she ever did was sit on the couch and eat ice cream." And yes, it will only be an obituary for these same told-you-so-ers won't be doing anything cool enough to make an actual article.<br /><br />I could go on, on and on. This state breeds sanctimonious commentary. (Maybe other states do too? Dunno, never lived out of this state.)Rabidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01910636993163166976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-8786694555939992152010-01-28T21:44:46.108-07:002010-01-28T21:44:46.108-07:00Stuff happens on bikes and on skis. We all do our ...Stuff happens on bikes and on skis. We all do our best and hope for the same either way. <br /><br />Immortality is not in the cards regardless....Steve Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13650405341304401203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-51316363530904377412010-01-28T20:51:45.902-07:002010-01-28T20:51:45.902-07:00I was involved in a bike fatality. That day change...I was involved in a bike fatality. That day changed the lives of all us there.<br /><br />There were plenty of people who had no idea what had happened who were quick to point out how "stupid" we all were.Grizzly Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05216018097001642270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-70342630140543437832010-01-28T20:32:21.542-07:002010-01-28T20:32:21.542-07:00Mark, well said. More compassion and less condemna...Mark, well said. More compassion and less condemnation is called for.<br /><br />For obvious reasons, I've thought a great deal about standing on the ridge with you that morning. Even though we all wanted to hit the powder shot, it was an easy call. Thankfully, a good tour doens't always have to have great skiing. Yiedling to caution and coming back another day is never a bad decision.Darenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14834731851525362875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-3084128686061922882010-01-28T20:21:06.165-07:002010-01-28T20:21:06.165-07:00Have you ever read the comments about cyclists? Th...Have you ever read the comments about cyclists? They wish death on all of us. The 500 Warriors crash was filled with that crap.Blackdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00049275343213520407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-26715845486558477452010-01-28T19:51:33.404-07:002010-01-28T19:51:33.404-07:00hell, it is why i find solace in Saint George in J...hell, it is why i find solace in Saint George in January, February and sometimes March, could be worse, could be a bike fatality comments section.StupidBikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12994994198022740179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-81524945980700765832010-01-28T18:39:39.706-07:002010-01-28T18:39:39.706-07:00The thought processes of these KSL people are real...The thought processes of these KSL people are really intriguing to me. One common thread to the posts you quoted goes something like this: there is an avalanche warning; anyone who goes into avalanche country disregards this warning; anyone who disregards this warning is stupid; I disdain stupid people.<br /><br />I fear people who make the kinds of assumptions and generalizations necessary to get to the conclusion that the dead are stupid. They assume that the avalanche warning universally applies to the "backcountry" -- whatever that is. Is it the place where there is snow? Are you in the backcountry once you turn up the canyon road? There is something wrong with someone who believes that the avalanche warning applies to all of the backcountry. Such a person is not astute enough or is too lazy to see that the backcountry consists of a large variety of terrain, some of which is safe, some of which is dangerous. Such a person fails to make that distinction.<br /><br />Such a person also takes as gospel the voice of the avalanche center. If the avalanche center says "no," they don't go. And they criticize people who do. To have that much faith in the avalanche center is a bit scary. Safe, yes. Rational, no.<br /><br />And what about the premise that if you venture into the backcountry you disregard the avalanche warning? That's not true. Why can't some people make room for the possibility that you can go into the backcountry AND take the avalanche forecast very seriously. The person who can't see that possibility scares me.<br /><br />Finally, to make a judgment that someone is stupid when so little facts are known or understood is, well, stupid. It also means that in real life, such person is running around the city making decisions and judgments based on unknown facts. And having children who do the same. <br /><br />Which is in large part why I find so much solace in the backcountry.Jaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03034115882272086104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-6496823516580593692010-01-28T17:29:35.869-07:002010-01-28T17:29:35.869-07:00I agree, those "good riddance" messages ...I agree, those "good riddance" messages are ghastly.<br /><br />But I've seen this pattern enough there must be something to it. Here's my guess: a person hears of a tragedy, at first they are sad, then they ask "why did this happen?", when they find ways the tragedy may have been prevented they get mad, then they lash out. And on the internet they can lash out anonymously and without feedback from peers to alert them that what they are saying is wrong.<br /><br />The behavior is still wrong, but I can see some enabling factors to explain why I see this type of reaction so often.<br /><br />My easy solution: don't read comments on any media website.KanyonKrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01954169751206336705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-87572279197723680732010-01-28T16:40:57.887-07:002010-01-28T16:40:57.887-07:00Watcher: perfect!
I think the UAC sets a great ex...Watcher: perfect!<br /><br />I think the UAC sets a great example in these cases. If anyone could say "we told ou so" it is them. instead they publicly offer condolences, and then try to inform us of how and what went wrong.<br /><br />I had actually started a similar post, based on the horrible comments on that story. But I had to stop. I was blown away by how many "he got what he deserved" opinions there were. It was heartbreaking. I hardly think being in the wrong place at the wrong time merits death. And like you said, how many us would have chosen not to ski that familiar slope?<br /><br />The Meadows slide was spooky. How often do we consider going to that slope because it is a "safe zone"? I hold that spot in some nostalgic regard because it was the first place I ever BC skied. For the victim, it was the last.<br /><br />These are uncommon times in the Wasatch.Grizzly Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05216018097001642270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-90654784675837879172010-01-28T15:30:43.708-07:002010-01-28T15:30:43.708-07:00I keep thinking about buying a set of back country...I keep thinking about buying a set of back country ski's. I keep waffling. My brother's friend died in an avalanche. He was dug out quickly but died from the head trauma. My brother still skis back country and tries to get me to go with him all the time. <br /><br />My son skis some sketchy stuff and I make him wear a beacon. It makes me feel better but sometimes I feel like they are nothing more than body recovery devices. What do you do? You have to live your life.Blackdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00049275343213520407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-64815068722985963102010-01-28T15:17:17.455-07:002010-01-28T15:17:17.455-07:00To be allowed to post comments on KSL, they should...To be allowed to post comments on KSL, they should give you a quick, 1-word spelling test. A good word would be <br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude" rel="nofollow">schadenfreude</a>.Watcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02248341788957416471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-16537842993449305882010-01-28T14:42:25.178-07:002010-01-28T14:42:25.178-07:00I have to resist any temptation to click on the co...I have to resist any temptation to click on the comments of ksl "news" reports (news being put in quotations because it usually barely qualifies). Reading the ksl comments puts my eyes at serious risk of being gouged out with a spoon. Especially after reading the "your stupid" and "you didnt spell that write" type comments.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00622082658232225351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-37247602512244593272010-01-28T13:52:40.200-07:002010-01-28T13:52:40.200-07:00According to the summary on the Utah Avalanche Cen...According to the summary on the Utah Avalanche Center's website, the skier who died in Hells Canyon "...was found on the snow surface, face down and appeared to have been killed by trauma."<br /><br />http://utahavalanchecenter.org/accident_hells_canyon_1242010Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10783048355396233094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-46833495868721019232010-01-28T12:28:38.793-07:002010-01-28T12:28:38.793-07:00I could not agree with you more.I could not agree with you more.Jason McGrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01857280956767662135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-86357109908240681192010-01-28T12:22:07.316-07:002010-01-28T12:22:07.316-07:00accusing ksl commenters of being stupid is an insu...accusing ksl commenters of being stupid is an insult to stupid people.<br /><br />of course, maybe i'm off base. maybe this post isn't about avalanches and ksl commenters at all, but is a metaphor for something much bigger.<br /><br />maybe.dughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04917606372332678277noreply@blogger.com