tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post2206280800807162939..comments2024-03-04T01:16:15.730-07:00Comments on Ski Bike Junkie: Peacocks getting their feathers ruffledSki Bike Junkiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12295969126174565599noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-5880800521098514362019-06-06T18:02:15.775-06:002019-06-06T18:02:15.775-06:00Bicycle Cyclato For Beginners A Complete Guide To ...<a href="https://cyclato.com" rel="nofollow">Bicycle Cyclato</a> For Beginners A Complete Guide To CyclingAdminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04043060968778351464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-49630162971412887092010-04-17T07:36:12.777-06:002010-04-17T07:36:12.777-06:00hellow!
My name is Ideobranda from Brazil,Rio d...hellow! <br /> My name is Ideobranda from Brazil,Rio de Janeiro,please,make a visit in this blog: <br />www.bumbameumorro.blogspot.com,if you can,help us.<br /> Thank you!Ideobrandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017262851126226213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-60286385631221356792010-04-16T14:10:14.986-06:002010-04-16T14:10:14.986-06:00Tanner, don't worry, anytime you feel Utah Cou...Tanner, don't worry, anytime you feel Utah County insanity coming over you, just go chill at Racer's and all will be good.JZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09799409801284598416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-4148626359445428402010-04-16T13:19:13.699-06:002010-04-16T13:19:13.699-06:00As someone who has worked for the big bike company...As someone who has worked for the big bike company you like to make fun of and who currently works in the outdoor sporting goods industry, all I can say is thank goodness people buy equipment they don't need. If everyone followed a utilitarian approach and bought rationally based on cost/function, the industry would die. There's a reason the Outdorr Retail show takes the entire Salt Palace. People just like to buy cool sporting goods that will hardly ever be used to their potential.<br /><br />It might surprise you to know the super high-end equipment is usually not very profitable for the company selling it due to the very limited volume and very high development costs.<br /><br />So, why do we make crazy expensive high-end stuff? Frist, outdoor sporting goods companies are run by people just like you and me. They love really cool stuff. Accordingly, they always want to make something new and better. Second, the market for high-end equipment that has no upper price limit is just big enough to justify playing in it (usually, just breaking even is good enough). Third and most important, the technology of high-end equipment does in fact trickle down to the meat of the market. Faceless Ghost is right, the $2,500 road bike today is significantly better than the best road bike 7 or 8 years ago. With some minor changes to reduce the cost, the S-works frame of today is the Tarmac Elite frame three years from now.<br /><br />All that being said, I too think cat 4's and 5's on expensive TT bikes are silly.<br /><br />Bob, 29ers are stupid. I guess that's why you ride one now.Darenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14834731851525362875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-6922053789633325472010-04-16T11:02:59.700-06:002010-04-16T11:02:59.700-06:00Do not do it Tanner. Learn these words. Utah man S...Do not do it Tanner. Learn these words. Utah man Sir a Utah man am I. <br /><br />I promise you will be happier and healthier in the long run. In Utah county they have more rules than road racing.Blackdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00049275343213520407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-90781042553906020952010-04-16T08:54:32.784-06:002010-04-16T08:54:32.784-06:00I just think road racing at the level most of do i...I just think road racing at the level most of do it at is taken way to seriously and is kind of stupid. That is why I am still a cat 4 roadie but a cat 1 mountain racer. Also, that Utah Valley Magazine scares me. To think I am moving down there for school next fall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-81023469404322578682010-04-15T23:23:12.127-06:002010-04-15T23:23:12.127-06:00If you haven't done so yet, please click over ...If you haven't done so yet, please click over to <a href="http://uvmag.com/" rel="nofollow">uvmag.com</a>. I'm hoping the owner/editor finds me, sends me hate mail, and "invites me to lunch" for making fun of her ridiculous, plastic, pretentious, everything that's wrong with mormon culture mentality even though it almost tries very hard to not let the mormon roots seep through magazine.<br /><br />Thanks for the tip, Rabid. I'll keep you posted on what happens.Ski Bike Junkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295969126174565599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-22142447361048595092010-04-15T23:03:40.313-06:002010-04-15T23:03:40.313-06:00I think she gets a freakish excitement over readin...I think she gets a freakish excitement over reading the mag's analytic report.Rabidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01910636993163166976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-56134252223014590592010-04-15T23:02:26.606-06:002010-04-15T23:02:26.606-06:00So Junkie, you might want to remove the link to uv...So Junkie, you might want to remove the link to uvmag. If someone clicks on it, she'll find you too!Rabidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01910636993163166976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-78540438286779824772010-04-15T22:48:02.286-06:002010-04-15T22:48:02.286-06:00Oh dear sweet lord, I just went and looked at uvma...Oh dear sweet lord, I just went and looked at uvmag.com and 'The Fabulous 50' are you serious, I think I lost like 3 pounds of brain mass already,StupidBikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12994994198022740179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-1688548927058653822010-04-15T21:49:32.863-06:002010-04-15T21:49:32.863-06:00Maybe b/c its tax day, but you (SBJ) have been bri...Maybe b/c its tax day, but you (SBJ) have been bringing on the rants and everyone has obliged with the banter. Good on yuh. Very entertaining.<br /><br />MTB races sanctioned by UCI do have more stringent rules on signing up for a class (they have gotten rid of sport/expert/pro and gone to Cat 1/2/3). Not sure how it works, though, for upgrades. But most local mtb races are not UCI sanctioned and I think most people do it for the fun of it, not to get upgraded in UCI categories. Road races could be the same way if people wanted and demanded the same flexibility as local mtb races. Why road races are "geared" differently is another whole topic (OK, that deserves another post by a certain blogger, hint hint).<br /><br />I don't mind people buying expensive bikes. Go right ahead. Though, unless you are a pro, reducing the bike's weight a half a pound will make little difference in performance. Dropping 5-10lbs off my body will do much more (and save $$ from eating less!) than spending an extra $3-5K on a lighter bike. As will extra training. <br /><br />Of course, I agree that if some one has the right to buy a $10K bike, everyone else has the right to make fun of them if they suck, just like wearing a full kit. If you ride/wear it, you better bring it. Otherwise, others have the right to make fun of you. It's like a universal (bike racing) truth.<br /><br />And hate mail? Wow - is that an invitation or what?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09893633242494385750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-6023952068201163942010-04-15T20:39:43.660-06:002010-04-15T20:39:43.660-06:00Rick: Amen to that.
Anyone who checks "train...Rick: Amen to that.<br /><br />Anyone who checks "trains 20+ hours per week with sugar momma paying the bills" has to spot the rest of us 10 minutes.Ski Bike Junkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295969126174565599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-53717162297122880812010-04-15T19:58:42.495-06:002010-04-15T19:58:42.495-06:00Some day we'll move away from terms like Cat 1...Some day we'll move away from terms like Cat 1, Cat 2 or Expert MTB, Pro MTB and replace them with <br /><br />Full-time job with 3+ kids<br /><br />Part-time job and single<br /><br />etc...<br /><br />That would make much more sense.Rick Sunderlagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11459261977360342666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-541280229814236852010-04-15T17:21:24.410-06:002010-04-15T17:21:24.410-06:00Hey KK, I think SBJ is registered for LotoJA (agai...Hey KK, I think SBJ is registered for LotoJA (again). Bwaahahahaaa.JZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09799409801284598416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-90007343724690857622010-04-15T16:50:05.227-06:002010-04-15T16:50:05.227-06:00The level of bike bling would mean nothing for a s...The level of bike bling would mean nothing for a slow poke like me. Spending the extra money would be pointless. I think the faster you get the more financially feasable-but I agree with Ski-Bike Junkie that if you do have the bling, you better bring it-or just resign yourself to be made fun of.Chicken Legshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06767401760603646902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-42500675256155648272010-04-15T16:37:29.882-06:002010-04-15T16:37:29.882-06:00Kris: Surprise me. Just remember that it's up ...Kris: Surprise me. Just remember that it's up to me whether or not I post it. <br /><br />Except you have a blog too, so I guess that doesn't work. Maybe you should just make it an open letter. But make sure it's truly hateful. Either that, or couch the hate speech in euphemisms like "discussing ideas."Ski Bike Junkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295969126174565599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-83519239806796654862010-04-15T16:34:30.728-06:002010-04-15T16:34:30.728-06:00rabidrunner - I immediately looked up your blog po...rabidrunner - I immediately looked up your blog post about Utah Valley magazine. I despise that pretentious, plastic rag. You were spot on, and if anything, too nice.<br /><br />SBJ - If you want hate mail, I can oblige. Would you like to select the topic for me to berate or be surprised?KanyonKrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01954169751206336705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-2766912956975686382010-04-15T16:23:15.461-06:002010-04-15T16:23:15.461-06:00FG: valid point.
Dug: thank goodness I'm old ...FG: valid point.<br /><br />Dug: thank goodness I'm old enough to pre-date youtube.<br /><br />Rabid: weren't we just talking about this? And now you're the first one to get real hate mail? I. AM. SO. JEALOUS.Ski Bike Junkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295969126174565599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-57204293547218548112010-04-15T16:17:56.532-06:002010-04-15T16:17:56.532-06:00I want EPO. I had something clever to say until I...I want EPO. I had something clever to say until I saw in big, giant, cartoony letters, "EPO."<br /><br /><i>"True innovation would be improving the performance and keeping the cost the same. Or if the cost goes up, improving performance to a degree that exceeds the cost increase. So if the bike costs twice as much, it should be twice as good.</i><br /><br />You're such a purist.<br /><br />Incidentally, I'm particularly entertained by your pot-stirring. Especially when you get a reaction. Reactions are fun. I got an e-mail just the other day from the "owner and editor" of Utah Valley Magazine. She was "surprised and frightened" by a blog post I did that bashed her beloved magazine. She wants to take me to lunch to discuss "ideas." Like I'm going to reveal my identity to the owner and editor of cheesy magazine. Like, really.Rabidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01910636993163166976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-91934948717354058452010-04-15T15:58:47.026-06:002010-04-15T15:58:47.026-06:00"And I was crushed when I got home and couldn..."And I was crushed when I got home and couldn’t jump over my mailbox in them."<br /><br />jeezus i wish i could see a video of this. i mean, what is youtube for if not this?dughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04917606372332678277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-2780972689219606362010-04-15T15:51:38.044-06:002010-04-15T15:51:38.044-06:00I strongly agree that $8-12K bikes are not worth t...I strongly agree that $8-12K bikes are not worth the marginal increase in performance. But instead of comparing today's top-end bikes to those of a few years ago, consider this: <br /><br />My first race bike was a Cannondale R5000. It had an aluminum CAAD 7 frame and a DA 7800 drivetrain. It cost $3200, and that's only because it was a leftover from the previous year and marked off 40 percent. The original retail price was over five grand. But right now you can go to your local Cannondale dealer and buy a CAAD9 with a DA 7900 drivetrain for three grand. Or you can buy it with a Rival drivetrain for about half that. The story is pretty much the same for any major manufacture. That's trickle down. <br /><br />The fact is, you can by a truly race-worthy bike for two grand, but people are too distracted by the latest wonder bikes to notice.Faceless Ghosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12470490022885019213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-91373036528476974622010-04-15T15:46:05.062-06:002010-04-15T15:46:05.062-06:00"When it stops being fun, it’s time to either..."When it stops being fun, it’s time to either stop doing it or find a new way of doing it that makes it fun again."<br /><br />Bingo. This reminds me: it's all good. The only quirk is, I really enjoy my cycling preferences so sometimes I come off as evangelical. Thanks for bring it back to basics.<br /><br />Blackdog - I think a cost anylisys would back you up.<br /><br />StupidBike - So stupid is slang for awesome, right? Like phat is good?KanyonKrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01954169751206336705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-47409095209993500232010-04-15T15:33:26.775-06:002010-04-15T15:33:26.775-06:0029ers are stupid29ers are stupidStupidBikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12994994198022740179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5109501634336541211.post-7714264868392713462010-04-15T15:10:34.480-06:002010-04-15T15:10:34.480-06:00I think I figured out what you are saying. We shou...I think I figured out what you are saying. We should spend our money on EPO and Steroids. Caus that stuff must make you faster. And I hear it is much less expensive than trying to shave a few grams off an 18 lb bike or buying a TT bike. <br /><br />Now if that does not start a fight I do not know what will.Blackdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00049275343213520407noreply@blogger.com